Posted on 06/16/2006 by the cynic
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I wrote earlier about my current "temp to hire" (*cough BS cough*) job that's getting outsourced to India. It's supposed to go until the fall, but I have my suspicions because today I got about 6 emails in a row from the big boss to this effect:
"Regarding X task (that keeps Cynic and other laid-off folks busy): We need to have a conference call next week to get everything handed over to India. We also need to train them on this."
If all 6 get "handed over" by next week, that will leave me literally nothing to do at the office all day besides twiddle my thumbs and of course surf the web. Therefore, I have a sneaking feeling things are getting cut much sooner than September. I'll keep everyone posted.
And no, I will not train my replacement. That's humiliating, requires hours and hours of international conference calls, and I'd rather just quit and job-search full time if they require that.
POST A COMMENTthe cynic(06/16/2006)
Fortunately (although I think it's bad luck to talk prematurely), I may have a 2nd interview coming up at another company soon, although they're dragging their feet due to "summer hours." I really hope and pray that I land something within the month, so that I can simply say "Ciao." I'd also feel better about the training if at least I have something lined up--if I don't, there is nothing more demeaning than training someone who's taking your job, and then going off to be unemployed. Yuk. :P
Spencer(06/16/2006)
Don't be anyone's pawn! That's my motto!
twiz(06/16/2006)
I had a similar situation happen to me. Fortunately the cards were in my favor because I landed a new job one week before I was slated to start training some guy from India. I was able to give notice and walk out 2 days before training as to begin.
the cynic(06/16/2006)
I really hope that happens! That would rock the house.
twiz(06/16/2006)
Well we will keep our fingers crossed for you! Good luck.
M. in Wisconsin(06/16/2006)
Yes, the ideal situation is to get a new job before you are forced to train someone. On the other hand, if you don't, what's the best thing to do? Refuse and risk a bad recommendation? Or do so, but make it clear you are doing it under duress? What do you all think of of agreeing to train the replacement (Tell them you are doing it because you are a professional) but make it very clear to your supervisors how inappropriate it is and how badly they have treated you? Some people can do this from a position of strength, but that can be difficult. Your employer has been an $$%^*^$#, but that does not be you should be, too. Just a thought.
C - -(06/16/2006)
A recommendation from the company that outsourced your job may not be worth much. After all the CEO's have good excuses for shifting jobs in the first place. Just make sure you can show that the company and the people you worked with really existed. Time to take names and addresses to stay in touch and keep up your job search.
M. in Wisconsin(06/16/2006)
The recommendation may not be worth much to those who know the inside story. But my experience is that managers at one company will side with managers from another. They compare notes and tend to believe workers are lazy, whiney, etc. The idea is not to get revenge but to come out ahead. You know what they say: "Living well is the best revenge."
Stupid Bosses(06/16/2006)
I am all for screwing them over by not training your replacement, but if they let you go instead of you quitting you will get unemployment. Just something to think about.
the cynic(06/17/2006)
I've thought about it a bit since this morning--still bitter about it, but I probably will stick it out until I find something new. Only because I do have prospects. For the person who mentioned recommendations--I've actually already gotten them, so it's taken care of, but probably do want to stay on good terms in case someone calls to check a reference. The one thing I WON'T do though is postpone a future job offer to stay and train them.
the cynic(06/17/2006)
Oh and in case I wasn't quite clear (since it's different in each company), I have to train these folks long distance over the phone and chat. Nobody is coming over from India to be trained. I think in some companies they would be.
BoneyardDiva(06/17/2006)
Wow, amazing how many ppl have been out-sourced to India. I thought it was a joke, but this is a real crock.
just me(06/17/2006)
A joke...sadly no. I wish it were. It didn't happen to me, but I have several friends in the tech industry (some at the same company together) and over the course of 2 years it happened to most of them in different degrees. Some of them lost their jobs to people from India and 2 of them lost coworkers that were replaced by offshore people. They say is so hard working with these new distant coworkers because of time zone issues, language issues and just general culture issues. It is so messed up. As a side issue, I had to call tech support for my cell phone recently and got nowhere because my call went to India and all they had for me were canned answers and could not understand me. My phone is still messed up.
the cynic(06/17/2006)
Yeah, it's no joke. This is why I'm glad I'm an admin more than a techie. I'm sort of a techie right now (operations support), but I have administrative assistant experience as well, and those jobs still seem to be onsite, and permanent rather than temp (for now). I guess it's hard to get work done when your secretary is off-shore. :P I had thought about taking IT programming courses, but probably won't now since chances are that those jobs will be all overseas by the time I'd finish school. I'm planning to get paralegal/admin certificates instead, thank God.
Temping for now(06/19/2006)
Cynic, you are on to something with the hang in there attitude. They can really mess up potential opportunities. We would not be posting here if labor laws actually protected us. Paralegal is a good thing to consider, it may give you some sense of justice after all of this. The last company I worked for actually had a division in India. I would hate to think of the friends I made there, loosing their jobs to this sort of thing. I don't think they would see it coming but, after my experience there it wouldn't surprise me.
M. in Wisconsin(06/19/2006)
I agree with Temping. Make your welfare your No. 1 concern here, Cynic. You can use them just as they are using you.
me too (06/16/2006)
cynic---good for you!!!!!!!!! Reading what you wrote made me smile so big. My job was offshored last year and I refused to train my replacement. I have pride for god's sakes. My attitude was "Yes, my job is being taken from me, but I sure as hell am not gonna hand it over on a silver platter!" And I left there feeling great about myself. You will too.
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